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hi there ryan this is uh osvaldo i'm

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calling from vancouver canada

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i have two sightings to share uh the

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first one

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at some point in the month of july

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i had rented out um a hut

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a very rustic um place by the beach

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uh and this portion of the beach is

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along

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uh you know this the coastline that's

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really kind of removed a bit isolated

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from any sort of development or tourism

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um it's um it's a beach that's uh

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kind of populated by

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by local local fishermen and their

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families and it's a very um

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rustic place off the beaten path i

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suppose right

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so this is back in 2005 um on the third

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night i believe actually was the second

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night

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um

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i had gotten into the habit of uh

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pulling

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a chair out from

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my hut and dragging it over

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to the beach um when the tide was out

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around eight or nine pm

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uh i got into

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you know stargazing mode right which was

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so much fun because it was such a

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beautiful place

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no you know

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cloud cover

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barely any whatsoever right

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i was just really serenely

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looking

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up at the sky into the horizon

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it was really dark by then

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and the sky is just full of stars and

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all of a sudden i see this

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light

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that it kind of

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it kind of

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the light became brighter like it

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intensified

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as it became brighter

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really quickly just started to

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shoot down

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as if

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it was gonna crash into the ocean

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and but all of a sudden it made this

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like 45 degree angle upward

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and as it did that

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um it made

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this flash of lightning

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kind of like

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you know in star trek when

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the ships go into warp speed and they

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create this uh lightning at the end

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that's

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there you go that's my

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culture reference for any trekkie fans

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out there anyway but um the whole thing

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was about three or four like four

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seconds

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like you know it had this really

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accelerated movement to it

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what was this thing i really don't know

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other than a ufo um this is again 2005

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there was no

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you know in a country like el salvador

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like our military like doesn't have

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didn't have anything

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like drone technology even back then i

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commercial drone techno technology was

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available back then

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it's a poor country so our military

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wouldn't have that kind of technology

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uh but the movement it made it was just

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crazy fast

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like all in the same speed

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it was not a meteorite uh this thing did

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not burn up because

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you know started to shoot down in a very

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irregular manner like it had this

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irregular

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uh jerky movement but really quick

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and it just showed up and it did this

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you know flash of lightning uh that's

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not a meteorite they don't they don't

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behave that way

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it was not a satellite again a plane

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discount that

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and totally not a fisherman boat

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so i don't know what the hell that was

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but i was just astounded

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you know it really if anything it felt

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um because it was amazing

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and i just went to bed

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with the knowledge that i had seen

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something really amazing

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and i put this experience on the shelf

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for the longest time because

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i mean

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as soon as it happened i look back and

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there are no other witnesses it was just

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me on that beach and sure i could have

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shared it with my family but i chose not

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to back then because

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like seriously you know el salvador it's

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a very

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christianized

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very christian country

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you know they would have taken my story

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and just placed it on a you know looney

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bin you know like hey man where are you

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smoking that night or something

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i let me tell you my mind was totally

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lucid

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i was in a my state of mind was just i

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was just very serene looking up at the

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stars and then and then i see this

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um and you know before this

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incident before before this sighting i

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i was open to the topic of ufos but

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i was never really someone that would go

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out and investigate it or really get

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into it you know um

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i again i put that story on the back of

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my mind for the longest time until last

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year

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in 2021 which is when i had my second

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sighting

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and the

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second sighting

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was in vancouver canada which is where i

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live now

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and so let me paint the scene um

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uh back then

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uh into in may of 2021

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um it was around

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uh 10 minutes to midnight

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apartment is in this block building and

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we're up on the third floor and we have

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a bulky balcony that's south facing

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and in front of us we have uh there's a

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parking lot and uh

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and this really beautiful tall maple

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trees right that shoot up about i don't

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anywhere between 180 to 200 feet high

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and then you have a row a row of pine

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trees next to them about six or seven of

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them and they're smaller in height

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so i'm in my living room and all of a

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sudden there is a power outage

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and i think to myself oh i have we

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haven't had one of those in a while you

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know that's that's okay whatever and the

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thing about me is that i'm a night owl

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so i do stay up really late and i was

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working most likely on something

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then i told myself why don't we just

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step outside and gaze up at the stars um

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you know there's less less light

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pollution now that the lights

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are out in our building

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i step outside and i look over to the

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left i look over to the right and

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both uh rows of houses next to our

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building uh their lights are out

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except for the building in front of us

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you know which is like uh maybe like

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like a six-story high building and also

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newer

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and i thought okay so maybe it's just

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outage of our

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street block whatever

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and uh you know not too long after i had

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stepped out of out into the balcony um

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i i've been you know looking up at the

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sky and not too long after that

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like maybe like a minute

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or so of stopping outside i

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i see these

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three dots of light

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they were

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whitish yellowish in color

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and all i saw was

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this three lights in a triangle

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formation

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just gliding across going south east

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just on top of our building

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um just kind of maybe gliding along our

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i don't know uh and he was just

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gliding silently

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there was no noise to this thing

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yeah i got really spooked out

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uh i i was just mesmerized by this it

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i mean what was this triangle ufo i

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don't know

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uh it was hard to tell how big

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and how high the lights

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but i do know that

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that it went over those tall maple trees

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that i described earlier

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so it was going

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southeast and it disappeared over those

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tall tall trees

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an entire thing again like three to four

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seconds but i remember just being really

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spooked out because it's just the series

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of

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um like was this coincidence or

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synchronicity right like

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was this thing

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that

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what what caused the power outage in our

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building

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and for the rest of the row of houses

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next to our building like i don't know

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i still ask myself that and you know i'm

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not a ufo investigator i didn't go out

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the next day to like you know

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talk to like the you know bc hydra

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company and like you know hey man what

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happened last night what caused this

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power outage and our block

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like i had things to do whatever like

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you know but it stayed in my mind i

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remember

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you know as it happened i was really

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scared i don't know why i mean back then

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in

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reason

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really wanted to go back to my first

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sighting and just kind of investigate

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that

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uh the topic of ufos um it became like a

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hobby for me like a pandemic hobby

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and so

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maybe this was a projection of my mind

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you know maybe i projected something

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from all the information and research

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that i had done about the ufo phenomenon

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so

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i don't know that's a crazy theory to

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think about but um there's something

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about consciousness

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and how it affects people um the way

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this one affected me

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meaning the second one was that

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with all the information that i had

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consumed about ufos

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and the different um literature that i

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had read i

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um i was just really spooked out um

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and as it happened i remember

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i was really scared standing on that

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balcony and just kind of

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wanting to

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communicate with it and just in my mind

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i was

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saying

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to myself

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or to it to

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stay

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of it

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and but he just kept gliding along um he

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just went away over those tall trees

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it's hard to tell what that was um maybe

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it was like

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you know the size of an suv

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like i couldn't really determine any

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shape but again it was a triangle

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um

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in formation

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and moving very slowly and silently

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but you know come on like close to

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midnight what's this doing what's this

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thing doing like flying over our

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neighborhood

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late late that night

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so i got really scared by that um

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and the next day i just had to like tell

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my partner about it like yeah

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uh anyway i reported it to move on and

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other places but um

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yeah um

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you know overall i think

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the first one was just astounding and

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the second one really it was

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there was something

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palpable there and how it made me feel i

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was basically afraid of it

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um anyway um

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i you know i i really appreciate the

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work that you do ryan i think this topic

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i think you're doing really good work um

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i think this topic really challenges the

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status quo

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of what we currently understand about

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you know the cosmos or

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and ourselves as human beings you know

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i'm not saying that

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you know um that the sightings that i

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had were

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um of ellen alien origin but

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but let me tell you man the first one

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uh it was truly something out of this

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world it was

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something that i had never seen

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but for some reason after the second one

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i have this uncanny feeling that it'll

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keep happening again that for sure i'm

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going to keep seeing

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or having more

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uap or ufo experiences or sightings

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i i can't tell you why that is but um

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i know it's gonna happen again i just

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don't know when and that's okay

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um i just know that i have to just keep

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looking up

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and uh just pay attention to the night

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sky

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hell even during the daytime maybe

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something might happen maybe like a day

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sighting right

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um anyway um

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uh anyways that's all ryan uh thank you

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um everyone for listening to my story

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as richard dolan says you know keep

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hey ryan hey somewhere in the skies

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listeners

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i'm mj

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from a spooky tells podcast that's e in

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front of spooky and i have a story for

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you all today i hope you enjoy it it's a

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story i grew up listening and it used to

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terrify me

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as a child

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so i hope you guys enjoy

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this story takes place in 1994 in the

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middle of nowhere pueblo called latinaja

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in the state of sacatecas in mexico

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latinaja is in the municipality of

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villanova

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according to the research of this little

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pueblo it no longer has residents and as

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of right now as far as i am aware it's a

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ghost town not to be confused with

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another little town of the same name

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within the same state

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this dinah in particular is no longer

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registered as a town and the people who

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told me the story are near and dear to

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me so all the names will be changed as

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they wish to remain anonymous

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one night jose and his friend miguel

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were on horseback they were returning

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from a neighboring town from a dance and

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seeing their girlfriends as they were

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crossing the road in fields in the

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distance they saw an airplane flying

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over

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airplane and engulfed it the airplane

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completely stops almost like it was

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locked in time and space not going up or

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down back or forward

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just there hovering in mid-air with this

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light shining above it according to jose

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it couldn't have lasted more than 10

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seconds and as soon as the light

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appeared it vanished and the airplane

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resumed its fight jose and miguel were

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terrified because it made no sense

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jose would go on to clarify that miguel

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and him did not grow up with pop culture

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as they lived in a farm town very rural

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very third world country like way of

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living

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the only electrical thing in this town

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were the street lamps the houses and

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residents still used oil lamps and they

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were not influenced by alien and ufo

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culture like many parts of the world no

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electricity no tv

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now to return to the story jose and

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miguel depart from each other each

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heading to their own homes when jose

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reached his home he went straight to the

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horse's stable as he was putting away

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his horse jose noticed that outside the

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stable became entirely lit like it was

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daylight he'd noticed that the light

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shining down on the stable was the very

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same light that paused the airplane in

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mid-air

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he described it as being similar to a

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spotlight but on a much larger scale

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and just like with the airplane as soon

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as it came it left once the light was no

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longer shining down on the stable jose

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ran home

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the family guard dog greeted him outside

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the home he began rationalizing what he

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saw as the dog seemed unaffected he

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locked the iron screen door and the

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wooden door behind him leaving the guard

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dog outside his sister his brother and

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his parents are inside the home waiting

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for him and they noticed he was shaken

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they asked what was wrong and jose

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recounted his experience a few hours

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later everything seemed back to normal

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as they were getting ready to go to bed

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their dog starts going wild outside

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barking and growling ready to attack

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something the family became startled

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maybe it was someone trying to take one

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of their animals

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to their horror the family hears

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something fall on the roof a very heavy

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thump

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something either fell on the roof or

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something jumped onto the roof

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and this something starts walking across

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and it seems to be bipedal

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walking on two legs it was not a

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four-legged creature from what jose's

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sister says it sounded like this thing

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had

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claws with each step that was taken it

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had the sound of claws dragging across

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the roof at this point the family is

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frantic jose and his brother grab their

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guns and ready for an attack whatever is

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on the roof if it comes through the

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ceiling or tries to door they will be

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ready

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meanwhile the dog at this point is in

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fear and it's no longer sounding angry

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it's sounding afraid and it starts

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running and slamming into the front

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doors charging at the doors over and

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over and over nearly breaking the iron

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screen door in the wooden door along

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with it whimpering barking and growling

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the dog is in complete hysterics when

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all of a sudden all the noises just

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stop

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becomes silent

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they did not rest that entire night and

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when morning came they opened their

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doors and saw the dog was laying there

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on the floor dead no blood no cuts no

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wounds it looked like it was sleeping

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after these incidents jose had suffered

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and many people around the town and the

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neighboring town see lights coming in

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and out of the lake that's at the edge

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of latina

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one of these people who have seen these

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lights coming in and out of the lake has

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been jose's sister on two occasions

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several other residents

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of the neighboring town as well so much

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so that they would wait out for any

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family or friend walking near this lake

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late at night to make sure they got home

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safe

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and that is the story i hope you enjoyed

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listening

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it is a story that was retold over and

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over again to me as a child and it used

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to scare me so much but with that being

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said

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bye and stay as spooky

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[Music]

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hi ryan

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my name is john and

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i experienced something absolutely

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extraordinary

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with my mom

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just outside of casa grande arizona

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a little less than a month ago

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and i'd like to tell you about it

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um

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we have been spending time out in

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arizona we're from california uh just

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north of los angeles

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and i've been spending time out here in

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arizona with my mom and puppies

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doing a sort of

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artist retreat you know we're making art

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music

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and now

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i guess

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taking pictures of ufos

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um

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we're no strangers to this sort of thing

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um i've personally seen about a dozen

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good ufos in my life

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with you know details lights

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and all kinds of stuff and i think i've

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seen a mix of government craft

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et craft

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[Music]

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we've just never

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gotten the opportunity to

579
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,320
get it on film

580
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:38,480
until now

581
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:39,360
so

582
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:42,640
on the 11th of may we were here

583
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:46,640
about 10 miles outside of casa grande

584
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,480
arizona in a retirement community a 55

585
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:52,000
plus community

586
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,080
where my mom is renting a spot and she's

587
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,000
got a trailer set up

588
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:01,200
and it's pretty bare bones but it works

589
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:03,200
it's a nice little

590
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,080
spot to get away and

591
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:08,480
do something creative

592
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,280
so

593
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:10,720
we were

594
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:13,840
well that day i had come into town

595
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,559
to do some stuff and on my way back uh

596
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:18,480
the sun was going down

597
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:19,760
and here

598
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,400
in this part of arizona the sky is

599
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,039
massive um in california we have a lot

600
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,360
of mountains and

601
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,280
it just seems a lot smaller there here

602
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:31,360
it kind of looks like the sky looks over

603
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:33,919
the ocean it just you know horizon to

604
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,880
horizon it's it's massive and i noticed

605
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,320
right away

606
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,400
with the

607
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,400
um sunset

608
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:44,480
that

609
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,600
they were crossing the entire sky they

610
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,279
looked like

611
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,840
almost like a dividing cell or something

612
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,840
i mean just massive clouds and i was

613
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,840
already thinking oh yeah there's

614
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,440
probably like a mother ship or something

615
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:01,360
hiding in there right

616
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:04,240
and so i came back to the place and we

617
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,520
decided

618
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:08,159
a couple hours later to go walk the dogs

619
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,480
to the dog park which is right there by

620
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:13,039
the complex we're staying in

621
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:14,080
and

622
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,640
my mom

623
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,840
[Music]

624
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,480
didn't normally bring her phone

625
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,320
on such walks

626
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,520
she was intuitively called to grab it i

627
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:25,120
mean we were looking at the clouds and

628
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,880
they were strange and she thought okay

629
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:28,400
well you know we'll capture some

630
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,159
interesting pictures

631
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,400
of the cloud formations here that

632
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:34,320
were like interlocking right above our

633
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:37,120
heads it was really weird

634
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,039
and so she grabbed her phone and we we

635
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:40,720
took the dogs to the dog park and on our

636
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,559
way back

637
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:44,240
is when

638
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,600
we decided to she decided to grab her

639
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:49,360
phone and snap some pictures of the

640
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:52,159
clouds the clouds at this point were

641
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,279
showing us

642
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,960
pictures

643
00:25:02,630 --> 00:24:56,720
so

644
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,640
baby that my mother had lost

645
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:04,880
many years ago

646
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:07,919
and then it morphed into

647
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,159
what looked like

648
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,120
a gray e.t

649
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,840
head you know with the big black eyes

650
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:17,520
and and that sort of thing and that's

651
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:19,200
actually the moment that my mom took out

652
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:20,960
her phone

653
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,559
and she aimed to capture that

654
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:25,919
um

655
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,840
in her

656
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:28,480
camera

657
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,760
so

658
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,600
she takes it out and she points it

659
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,360
straight up into the sky above us these

660
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,720
clouds by the way

661
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:36,000
they were only a couple hundred feet

662
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,320
above our heads and they were like

663
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,039
gliding over us like on a piece of glass

664
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,279
or something and then when we started

665
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:45,200
seeing these images the clouds were

666
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,640
actually

667
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,240
coming towards us

668
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,799
like down towards us towards the ground

669
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:51,760
it was

670
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:54,320
unbelievable i've never seen clouds

671
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:57,760
quote unquote do this before in my life

672
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:59,679
and so she she

673
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:01,760
snapped six pictures over the course of

674
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:05,279
29 seconds uh at around 9 00 p.m on the

675
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,760
11th of may

676
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,080
there wasn't any light pollution it was

677
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:11,840
quiet everyone in the complex was

678
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,640
already asleep um

679
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,240
really great conditions for taking

680
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:17,760
pictures

681
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,320
time we just we got tired we walked back

682
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,120
to the place and we fell asleep

683
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,360
immediately and it wasn't until the next

684
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:33,600
morning that

685
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:36,480
we realized what exactly we had caught

686
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:43,830
in fact my mom almost threw them out the

687
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:46,400
previous evening she did see them as

688
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,080
thumbnails in her phone and she thought

689
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,159
that there was

690
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:52,080
you know like like light pollution or

691
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,679
something was happening in the photos

692
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,360
that they were crap and they were trash

693
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,840
and she actually almost threw them away

694
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,600
something inside of her was like no no

695
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,360
no just hold on to these

696
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,440
and the next morning we took a

697
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:05,520
close look and

698
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,720
were absolutely

699
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,159
astonished

700
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,679
with what we saw

701
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:13,840
i should add too that when we were

702
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,159
taking the pictures when we saw the

703
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:17,840
the images and the clouds and they were

704
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,760
coming towards us and all that we felt

705
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,440
the whole time like they were craft up

706
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,840
there it's just you know we just know it

707
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:25,360
it's an intuitive feeling and when

708
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,520
clouds like this happen which by the way

709
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,760
have happened in our past

710
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,520
and they've preceded these sorts of

711
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,960
clouds with the fingers stretching

712
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:34,880
across

713
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:38,000
they've preceded weird events

714
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,760
in the nights that they've appeared so

715
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:43,679
she knew right away

716
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:47,279
that something was up and i don't know

717
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,720
um

718
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,919
the images

719
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:51,840
i mean they they speak for themselves in

720
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,799
five of the six images she caught this

721
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:57,440
craft which

722
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,039
uh has rows of of colors of lights um

723
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,080
the thing we estimate is probably i

724
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,039
don't know seven eight decks

725
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,840
tall i mean it was massive um if you

726
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:11,279
extrapolate

727
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,039
you know from where the camera position

728
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,120
was and looking up into the sky and we

729
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:16,880
caught you know the edge of this thing

730
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,559
it's probably a couple hundred feet

731
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:21,279
across and we did not see this thing

732
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:23,360
with our naked eyes

733
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,279
um it was completely invisible we felt

734
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:27,679
it up there but the fact that

735
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:31,039
we actually got something in photograph

736
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:31,919
that

737
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,720
we couldn't see with our eyes is

738
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,880
absolutely astounding

739
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:38,720
um

740
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,600
between dimensions or yeah i don't know

741
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:45,520
maybe it was moving too fast for our

742
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:47,840
eyes to see but the camera shutter got

743
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:49,120
it

744
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,640
um

745
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,799
i we really don't know we really don't

746
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,480
know we don't know if this is government

747
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:55,840
or if it's et

748
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:57,679
um

749
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,200
but

750
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:01,520
the pictures are extraordinary um in the

751
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,960
words of of john halloran from mufon who

752
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,279
gave us a prompt call

753
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,960
for an interview

754
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:10,960
about all the details

755
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,480
his word was that these photos are

756
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,240
extraordinary

757
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,240
and they are um

758
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,159
the sixth one in particular where you

759
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,320
can really see the craft if you if you

760
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,919
zoom in on that

761
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,360
there's a whole

762
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,159
wealth of details there porthole windows

763
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,080
that are reflecting off the hull you can

764
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:32,880
see the ridge lines you can see

765
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:35,440
a pipeline going across

766
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,399
you can see a braided

767
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,120
not work on the bottom of the craft

768
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,960
it's unbelievable

769
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:45,120
so you know with this audio recording

770
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:46,480
that i'm going to be sending you i'll

771
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,279
send you the pictures and a little bit

772
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,000
of analysis that we've done too but

773
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:54,720
um yeah that's our experience

774
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,840
that particular time now i will add

775
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,600
that

776
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:01,039
we've actually

777
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,520
seen and recorded multiple ufos here in

778
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,200
in arizona

779
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,000
on our drive back this time so we we

780
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,840
came here we

781
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,760
my mom photographed a ufo and then we

782
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,760
went back home for a couple weeks and

783
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:17,760
now we're back in arizona

784
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:20,000
and on our drive back

785
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:21,039
we

786
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:25,200
saw a triangular ufo that that flashed

787
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,799
us for just

788
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,559
a couple seconds it was too quick for

789
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,880
her to grab her phone i was driving

790
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,960
but it showed us its bottom side it was

791
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,279
a it was an orb of light it was a white

792
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:38,240
orb and then it morphed into a triangle

793
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,600
that was facing us with a red light on

794
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:43,760
one corner and green lights on the other

795
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:46,000
two corners no red death light in the

796
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,520
middle so i don't think this is

797
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:50,399
necessarily a tr-3b

798
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:51,279
um

799
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:53,200
but we did see that and then it turned

800
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:56,320
into a red orb and and flew off you know

801
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,679
into the distance and she actually got

802
00:31:01,509 --> 00:31:00,080
some of that on video when it turned

803
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:01,519
into the red orb

804
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,880
and then we saw

805
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:04,720
on our last trip here we also saw

806
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:07,840
another ufo over the complex and it was

807
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:10,320
just a um

808
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,640
it was a white orb that was flashing all

809
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,000
these different colors and it looked

810
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,840
kind of iridescent and i got a really

811
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,000
good video of it the thing is compared

812
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,760
to this other these other pictures that

813
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:22,159
we got you know

814
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,679
i'll put it this way

815
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:26,080
the video footage

816
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,960
would have excited us before

817
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:30,840
we got these

818
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,000
images um but in comparison it's you

819
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,080
know whatever but yeah we actually do

820
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,399
have another ufo video too that we could

821
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:40,720
send you if you were interested

822
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:42,799
but anyway that's that's pretty much the

823
00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:47,120
story i hope i didn't leave anything out

824
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,880
and

825
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,120
[Music]

826
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,120
yeah thank you for

827
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,919
taking the time to

828
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,760
listen to this we want to get this out

829
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,519
there to the world we want the world to

830
00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,760
see these images but

831
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,600
it seems like a lot of people out there

832
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:03,679
can't see it or maybe they're hypnotized

833
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,559
or

834
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,279
maybe the images are too good a quality

835
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:09,360
maybe they look like bad cgi or

836
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,399
something

837
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,240
and people just they take one glance at

838
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:14,960
it and go yeah no it's not but it's

839
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,070
absolutely extraordinary

840
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:22,080
the detail

841
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,620
so

842
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:23,840
[Music]

843
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:26,640
yeah thank you and um

844
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,389
hi ryan thank you for having me on

845
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,000
somewhere in the skies i'm an avid

846
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:36,320
listener and i can't wait to tell you my

847
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,360
story

848
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,600
so my name is dennis i live in

849
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,279
southampton at the moment but i used to

850
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:43,360
live on the isle of wight

851
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,200
which is a little island off the south

852
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:47,440
coast of england in the uk

853
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:50,320
um and my story basically

854
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:52,640
was what kick-started my absolute

855
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,600
fascination with aliens with ufos

856
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,760
with the paranormal

857
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,840
because it was something that i just

858
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,440
couldn't explain no matter how hard i

859
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:03,039
tried i always had a fascination in that

860
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:04,799
side of things but this really

861
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:07,519
kick-started it for me and

862
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,720
ever since then i've been really sort of

863
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,399
like looking for paranormal stories and

864
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,840
that's why i came across this podcast a

865
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,440
few years ago and

866
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:15,679
i listen to it all the time so i used to

867
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,399
take my dog for a walk uh we used to go

868
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,559
up to this castle in newport on the isle

869
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:22,320
of wight so as you can imagine the

870
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,799
castle sits way up above the town it's a

871
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,559
very small town it's the county town of

872
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:28,000
the isle of wight

873
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:29,360
and i would take my dog up there each

874
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,200
evening this was happening in

875
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:33,279
october so it was fairly dark at this

876
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:34,880
point in time i like going up there

877
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,840
because you could see all around the

878
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,200
town all the lights and it was really

879
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:39,279
relaxing really calming a little bit

880
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,799
spooky but also a great walk um so i got

881
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,399
to the top where the castle is where the

882
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:45,919
car park is

883
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:48,000
and then just turn to my right where i

884
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,799
could oversee the forest to the

885
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,960
front of me and the main town below and

886
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,480
to the right

887
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,919
and all of a sudden i could see these

888
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,679
four dots in the sky and they were

889
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,840
fairly large so larger you would larger

890
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:01,600
than what you would see with an airplane

891
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,279
with their lights

892
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,840
and each one was pulsing in a different

893
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,600
like formation pulsing so one would

894
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,280
pulse one color then the next one then

895
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,200
the next one and the next one and i was

896
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:13,040
like oh that's interesting i was trying

897
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,560
to work out what it was i said what

898
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,240
could that be and all of a sudden they

899
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,079
started moving apart and then moving

900
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,919
around each other and sort of taking

901
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:21,440
different places in the formation and

902
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,919
i'm like well this is strange this is

903
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:25,599
very interesting

904
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:27,760
um and then they were moving in more

905
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,919
complex fashions and i was like this is

906
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,679
the craziest thing i've ever seen how

907
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,440
how you know how am i going to explain

908
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:36,159
this um and then after a few minutes of

909
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,679
that they just moved really high further

910
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,119
in the sky and sort of faded a bit and

911
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,200
then just completely disappeared

912
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,119
and it was the most interesting and

913
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,960
crazy experience i've ever had and

914
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,200
really made me think that there is

915
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,119
definitely something out there and ever

916
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,200
since then i've just kept my eyes to the

917
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:55,599
sky all the time and i've had you know a

918
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:57,119
number of times where i've seen things

919
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,480
that i can't explain and a number of

920
00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:00,400
stories that i may have to to send in at

921
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:03,040
some other point but yeah it was a

922
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,839
fascinating experience and really put me

923
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,920
into that mode of whatever else is out

924
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,320
there and i've been researching and been

925
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,720
very interested about it since then

926
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,160
just thought i'd like to share my story

927
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:16,000
with you thank you so much for having me

928
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,270
hey ryan thanks for having me on

929
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:23,280
somewhere in the skies my name is kendra

930
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,599
and just as a very short bio i'm a

931
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,520
professional tarot reader and pyrography

932
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,760
artist i've had a 18 year affinity with

933
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,520
witchcraft spirituality and i've been

934
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,920
obsessed with efos and the possibility

935
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,680
of extraterrestrial beings since i first

936
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,599
saw the alien autopsy video when i was

937
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,640
like 10

938
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:40,160
and the internet happened

939
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:42,079
i've had two sightings in my life that

940
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:43,599
i'll just briefly try to relay for

941
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,880
listeners

942
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,480
my first sighting must have been 20

943
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,240
years ago when i was just outside of the

944
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,640
store with my mom there was a fleet of

945
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:52,400
white spheres in the sky

946
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:53,839
even as a child i knew that these

947
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,839
objects were flying abnormally but the

948
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,280
coolest part was that they were doing

949
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,280
synchronized formations

950
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,760
fast forward to the summer of 2021 in

951
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,359
the rocky mountains of colorado where i

952
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,520
used to live i was outside on our deck

953
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,200
looking west when i got a sparkling

954
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,640
object

955
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,359
flying in a straight path across the sky

956
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:13,119
i watched it for a few seconds before i

957
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:14,720
decided that it wasn't the reflection of

958
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,480
a plane i pulled out my phone and

959
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,000
started recording and though this is

960
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,320
purely speculative it's almost as if the

961
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:22,480
object knew i started recording because

962
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,960
it disappeared a split second later

963
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:26,240
i knew i had witnessed something

964
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:27,599
substantial because of the way it

965
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,560
disappeared like it just disintegrated

966
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:32,079
i'm sure many of your listeners have

967
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,760
watched the latest season of skinwalker

968
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:36,240
ranch but it was exactly like the ufo

969
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:38,000
that was seen during the laser triangle

970
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,599
experiment and dissipated in the same

971
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:42,000
way i actually contacted candace from

972
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:43,440
the show because i had never seen

973
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:46,400
anything so similar to what i had seen

974
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,000
i also think it's important to note that

975
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,079
skinwalker was about four hours west

976
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,560
from my location anyway i filed a report

977
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,960
with mufon and their field investigator

978
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:56,960
determined that this object was indeed a

979
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,359
ufo i have a split second video of that

980
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,960
amazing experience but in the slowed

981
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,880
down version of that video i can see

982
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,320
that the object was spinning or

983
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,720
pulsating and then it did indeed just

984
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,040
poof from existence

985
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,880
for me even as a child i've never

986
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,320
questioned the possibility that we are

987
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:14,320
not alone in the universe after spending

988
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,359
years

989
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,280
as an amateur researcher regarding the

990
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:19,200
subject i feel like we are at the point

991
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,280
of beating a dead horse the evidence is

992
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,880
stacked and i'm hopeful that peaceful

993
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:24,240
disclosure will happen during my

994
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,720
lifetime i also feel like humanity is at

995
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,400
a tipping point and regardless of how

996
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,720
much us ufo nerds want the world

997
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:32,880
governments to come forward we really

998
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:34,160
need them to

999
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,839
take from that what you will but i think

1000
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:37,359
it is really important to navigate the

1001
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,280
future of this subject without bias and

1002
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:42,000
without fear mars isn't attacking

1003
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:45,040
so that's my little ufo story um thanks

1004
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:51,670
hello ryan my name is will murray i'm a

1005
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:54,800
professional writer and novelist

1006
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,920
in the middle 2000s i was coming back

1007
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:00,400
from a writing assignment in vancouver

1008
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:03,280
canada and flying over the continental

1009
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:04,960
united states

1010
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,720
in a passenger plane

1011
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,640
i was seated in a window seat on the

1012
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,800
starboard side of the plane

1013
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,280
i had been reading a book and put it

1014
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,760
down to give my eyes a rest and started

1015
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,599
staring out the window

1016
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,839
it was a sunny day

1017
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:20,880
and

1018
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:22,960
there were a number of clouds marching

1019
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:24,079
along

1020
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,520
in the sky

1021
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,440
one cloud in particular drew my

1022
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:28,960
attention

1023
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:32,800
it had the shape of a derby hat

1024
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,520
essentially a large dome probably five

1025
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:37,839
or six stories tall

1026
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,640
and sitting on a

1027
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:42,480
cloudy looking plate

1028
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,800
but what drew my attention was that on

1029
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:46,720
either side of the dome

1030
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,599
jutting out at equal angles

1031
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:51,040
were these two

1032
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,320
vaporous

1033
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,240
horns or jets

1034
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:56,160
they weren't moving or anything they

1035
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:59,680
were just frozen vapor

1036
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,599
and there was something about the

1037
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:03,680
symmetrical

1038
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:06,640
look of the cloud that captivated me so

1039
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:07,440
i

1040
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:15,040
my eyes went to a small black object

1041
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:19,440
about the size of a helicopter

1042
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,320
that

1043
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,640
looked like an oblong pill i remember at

1044
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:24,640
the time thinking it looked like a time

1045
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,640
release capsule except it was shorter

1046
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,359
and i asked myself what is that

1047
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,320
and my mind did what exactly the

1048
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,720
navy female pilot years later who

1049
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,119
observed the tic tac did

1050
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:41,359
i kept trying to pattern match it with

1051
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,640
something

1052
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,320
i recognized

1053
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,160
i asked is that a helicopter but of

1054
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:48,800
course a helicopter can't fly that high

1055
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:51,040
they don't pressurize them

1056
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,200
then i thought is that a small plane but

1057
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,119
it had no wings

1058
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,000
no portholes no external engines it was

1059
00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:00,720
just a black oblique oblong

1060
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,480
approximately

1061
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:04,960
the size of a helicopter a small

1062
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,680
helicopter i guess

1063
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:09,760
and it seemed to be passing in front of

1064
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:12,160
this cloud or approaching it it was not

1065
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:14,000
moving very quickly

1066
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:17,200
normally when i see a small plane flying

1067
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,839
when i fly commercial the small plane

1068
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,920
moves pretty fast this was

1069
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,520
loafing along

1070
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,359
a little like a blimp but they don't

1071
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:27,520
make blimps that are pressurized and

1072
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,960
even if they did

1073
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,319
i suppose

1074
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:31,920
you would still

1075
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,680
need some externals

1076
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:35,920
to make it look like a blimp

1077
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,560
i watched this object for approximately

1078
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:40,400
a minute or so

1079
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:42,800
and even though i had

1080
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,520
a cell phone on my pocket i didn't think

1081
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,280
to

1082
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:49,520
pull it out and take a picture that's

1083
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,880
how quickly it happened

1084
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,640
and

1085
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,599
once we passed the object

1086
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,680
i kept asking himself well what was that

1087
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,160
now i've had an interest in ufos since

1088
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:04,560
the 1960s it's been an on and off

1089
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,599
interest

1090
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,680
and i've always wanted to see one and

1091
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,160
even though apparently i did see one

1092
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,319
it was several days before i decided in

1093
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:14,880
my mind yeah that's what it had to be

1094
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:17,520
some kind of unidentified flying object

1095
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:18,960
because it didn't look like anything

1096
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,839
that should be up at 35 000 feet or so

1097
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,160
i should mention that a few years a very

1098
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:28,400
few years before this i had trained with

1099
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:31,440
dr david morehouse in remote viewing and

1100
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,560
he ran us against some targets of this

1101
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,160
type which

1102
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,240
awakened or reawakened my interest in

1103
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,839
the subject a little but i don't think

1104
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,319
there's any connection between the two

1105
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,480
events

1106
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:46,960
how i feel about it now

1107
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,599
is that i clearly saw a tic tac even

1108
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:51,760
though the tic tacs weren't in the

1109
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,400
public consciousness at that time

1110
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,800
and i would think i was confused because

1111
00:42:02,950 --> 00:41:58,640
i thought

1112
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,960
that ufo shapes typically were saucer or

1113
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:04,720
spherical or

1114
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:06,640
or egg-shaped

1115
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,920
or cigar-shaped and i had never

1116
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:11,760
i don't recall ever reading about one

1117
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:15,040
that was pill shaped but here it was

1118
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:16,400
i think

1119
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,240
in my mind at the time and

1120
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,400
now to this day

1121
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:24,880
i associate the black object with the

1122
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,359
cloud as if there was a connection with

1123
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:29,440
it this may be a bit of intuition i

1124
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,480
don't know it may be imagination

1125
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:34,800
but it seemed to me that the

1126
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:38,000
black pill was moving or gravitating

1127
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:39,359
toward

1128
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,790
there was something inside it it wanted

1129
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,200
to connect with or wanted to

1130
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,359
hide in it or something

1131
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,599
one could use their imagination and say

1132
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,920
well maybe there's a large ship larger

1133
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:56,319
ship inside the cloud and the cloud is

1134
00:43:02,069 --> 00:42:59,839
has that shape to to mark it as a

1135
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,079
unusual cloud so the black

1136
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,319
object could find it but i would think

1137
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,160
any advanced

1138
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:08,400
craft at that time wouldn't need such a

1139
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:11,680
visual identification but nevertheless

1140
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,880
i connect the cloud with the object in a

1141
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:17,359
way i can't fully explain and certainly

1142
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:20,560
can't verify except it was the cloud

1143
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,599
in its unusual configuration that first

1144
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:25,599
grabbed my attention

1145
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:26,720
that's it

1146
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:31,670
hey ryan in the somewhere in the skies

1147
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:35,040
podcast uh my name is john and uh i am

1148
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:36,319
excited to

1149
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:37,359
finally

1150
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,319
detail

1151
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,720
a couple of incidents for you all

1152
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,720
i know time is limited so i'll try to

1153
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:44,800
make it uh quick

1154
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:49,680
so i was 18 in 1985 living in angel fire

1155
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,480
new mexico the merino valley

1156
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,640
and it's a north

1157
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:56,000
to south

1158
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,000
valley with the uh tallest mountain in

1159
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:02,400
new mexico wheeler peak uh looming over

1160
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,839
it i was on top of the angel fire ski

1161
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,599
area uh basically staying overnight

1162
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,280
camping had a fire with a good friend of

1163
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,240
mine and we were watching satellites and

1164
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:15,680
you know a lot less satellites in the

1165
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,079
80s but you know watching satellites and

1166
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:19,920
stuff fly overhead and just kind of

1167
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,720
enjoying a super late evening uh you

1168
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:24,960
know out in the mountain air and we saw

1169
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,200
a very bright light across

1170
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,520
the uh valley from us

1171
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,240
and uh it was you know

1172
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,480
hugging the mountain and sometimes would

1173
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,200
go behind some of the peaks and then pop

1174
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,520
back up so we would sort of go in and

1175
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,359
out but it wasn't like zooming around

1176
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:43,599
and doing anything incr incredible so

1177
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,960
you know we couldn't make out what it

1178
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,200
was it was just a bright light and it

1179
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,280
seemed to be kind of you know

1180
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,119
cruising around in an area so we thought

1181
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,200
at first maybe it's a helicopter looking

1182
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,119
for a lost hiker or something but it

1183
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:57,040
kept sort of going south towards where

1184
00:45:03,030 --> 00:44:59,599
the palo shadow pass comes over from

1185
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:03,040
taos and uh you know it got to almost

1186
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,640
directly across from us which i would

1187
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:06,880
imagine is about two and a half to three

1188
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,920
miles from my location um and then also

1189
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,760
to just stop moving

1190
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,520
shot straight up into the sky way higher

1191
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,839
than the mountains and then immediately

1192
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:17,520
took off to the uh

1193
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:18,720
to the south

1194
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:20,160
in a blink of an eye i mean we're

1195
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:21,200
talking

1196
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,200
you know thousands of miles an hour i

1197
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:25,200
mean i i have no idea how fast it was

1198
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:26,800
going but it was

1199
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,760
gone

1200
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,240
um and my friend and i freaked out of

1201
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,160
course got in our blazer and started you

1202
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,160
know barreling down the mountain scared

1203
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:36,000
to death because we were sure oh god you

1204
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,359
know this thing's going to come back

1205
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,160
what is it it's a ufo but oh

1206
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,000
oops i forgot the most important part of

1207
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:44,319
the story so so we see the things zip

1208
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:45,040
off

1209
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,200
gone it's gone to the south and then um

1210
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,040
we see two lights

1211
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:53,040
to the very north of the valley flashing

1212
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,560
and they're coming

1213
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:56,800
very fast in our direction and all of a

1214
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,160
sudden we hear the jet noise

1215
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:02,000
and they must have been f-16s because

1216
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:03,680
they they had full after burners they

1217
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:04,960
only had one

1218
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:07,839
jet engine and they were hauling from

1219
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,400
the north in the direction this is like

1220
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,880
2 3 in the morning very loud must have

1221
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:15,040
woke up the whole valley rages through

1222
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:16,400
the valley

1223
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,800
in the direction of this craft but the

1224
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,800
craft is long

1225
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,000
long gone

1226
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,319
so my friend who was with me his parents

1227
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,680
were divorced he was living there with

1228
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,400
his mother in angel fire but his dad was

1229
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,720
an air force uh i don't know colonel or

1230
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,040
something but he worked in uh in the air

1231
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,760
force and uh he did um

1232
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,240
uh it wasn't sr 71 but he did some sort

1233
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,640
of test piloting stuff and so

1234
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,800
he went to go visit his dad and he told

1235
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,040
him about our sighting and asked his dad

1236
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:47,680
about it and his dad just was like very

1237
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,240
deadpan and was like son you're not

1238
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:52,560
crazy you saw what you saw this is the

1239
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:53,839
most highly

1240
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:56,240
uh secret uh held secret in the entire

1241
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,760
military and i don't want you to ever

1242
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,040
talk about it again

1243
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,760
and so uh to this day when i talk about

1244
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,599
it with him he gets really cagey he

1245
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:05,359
doesn't like to talk about it

1246
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,720
um uh you know and that's that was my

1247
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,839
first interaction with a uh with a ufo

1248
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,400
uh that i saw um and it was being

1249
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:16,720
trailed by air force jets so you know

1250
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:19,839
here i am 18 years old and this

1251
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:23,359
situation really blew my mind i mean i

1252
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:24,880
didn't know

1253
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,680
what to make of it except that it pretty

1254
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,520
clearly in my mind

1255
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,280
created uh

1256
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,760
the thought that okay well a ufos are

1257
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,720
real

1258
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:37,040
b the government obviously knows about

1259
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:39,200
them because you know and they can track

1260
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:41,760
them on radar because those jets never

1261
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,640
physically saw the craft because they

1262
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,640
never got close enough it was long gone

1263
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,400
before they came in so it means they had

1264
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,040
to be tracking it on radar and had to be

1265
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,520
vectored in to the very location so it

1266
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:55,680
made me know okay not only can we track

1267
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,240
the ufos do the military chase them but

1268
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,720
they were outclassed by them obviously i

1269
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,880
mean they were completely outclassed and

1270
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,599
the government is hiding this knowledge

1271
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:06,880
so that was

1272
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,400
the start for me when i was 18 realizing

1273
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,240
okay wow ufos are real the government

1274
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:14,960
knows it's a cover-up the military you

1275
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:18,000
know is is outmatched so i went to the

1276
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:21,040
university of new mexico and i started

1277
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:21,839
uh

1278
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,319
going to the library and i started

1279
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,640
studying the phenomena the blue book

1280
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,119
files the old string field files you

1281
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,359
know stanton freeman the roswell stuff i

1282
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,359
mean i started getting deep deep down

1283
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,200
this rabbit hole but i was started

1284
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,040
learning early on you know wow you know

1285
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,040
there's such a crazy stigma to this you

1286
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:40,880
can't talk to anybody about it because

1287
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,200
when i would bring it up to anybody

1288
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,200
friends family they would just think i

1289
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,280
was crazy or making it up or and they'd

1290
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:49,200
just on me so i was like okay i

1291
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,640
can't really talk to anyone about this

1292
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,040
but i gotta figure this out so i started

1293
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,040
going and doing lots of research at the

1294
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,200
library and started realizing that

1295
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,200
anyone who got too close

1296
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:02,160
died by mysterious circumstances so when

1297
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,920
i started learning that people who got

1298
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,240
too close to the ufo topic and got

1299
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,000
really deep in there were getting

1300
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,480
suicided or you know mysterious car

1301
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,280
crashes and this and that i became very

1302
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:15,200
nervous about what i knew

1303
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,480
um who i could talk to about it and so i

1304
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:20,720
was very apprehensive and would not

1305
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,960
speak to very many people about it was

1306
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,559
very nervous if i went to any kind of

1307
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,880
ufo conferences about just starting up

1308
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:28,400
conversations with people because i

1309
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,200
wasn't sure who was legit and who was a

1310
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,800
plant

1311
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:35,599
so then i got married in the mid 90s 95

1312
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,880
and uh i'd known my my wife all through

1313
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,720
high school so

1314
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,559
we're together and i start telling her

1315
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,800
my ufo story now i've seen a few other

1316
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:46,480
things a couple other incidents over the

1317
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,960
years that we won't go into here but

1318
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:50,960
so i'm bringing these up to her and you

1319
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,440
know typical people think you're crazy

1320
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:55,680
and she's like yeah yeah you saw ufo

1321
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,480
okay i'm sure yeah right and uh so she

1322
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,319
never really believed me and so i was

1323
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,319
always like you know this really sucks

1324
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:05,359
even my wife who loves me and trusts me

1325
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,240
doesn't believe me i mean this sucks

1326
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:11,040
and so then we saw an orb together like

1327
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:15,119
a white egg-shaped uh ufo flying across

1328
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,160
the sky

1329
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,440
um south or north of santa fe and we

1330
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,359
were driving in the car heading to taos

1331
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:23,520
and i saw this thing and it was coming

1332
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,520
it had was coming from the los alamos

1333
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:27,839
area it was hauling ass maybe about four

1334
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:30,480
or 500 miles an hour so pretty damn fast

1335
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,839
you know maybe 1500 to 2000 feet up not

1336
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,920
very high we're watching it watching it

1337
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,839
i'm driving and then she sees it just

1338
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,079
disappear i look back it's gone and that

1339
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:41,839
was the first one that she kind of saw

1340
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,480
but once again it was just a white thing

1341
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,400
in the sky hauling ass and then it

1342
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,920
disappeared so we're like well maybe it

1343
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,839
was a balloon maybe it was a balloon and

1344
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,599
it popped uh maybe it was this she was

1345
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,599
like well i saw it take off but i you

1346
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:55,440
know i don't know what i saw so this

1347
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,160
wasn't enough for her to be like

1348
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,160
okay confirmation i saw something so it

1349
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:02,400
was more like well that was weird but

1350
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,599
whatever

1351
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,960
so then

1352
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,839
january of 1997 and so this to me

1353
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:09,839
connects to the phoenix lights because

1354
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,200
taos new mexico is not as a ufo flies

1355
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:15,760
very far from where the phoenix light

1356
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:18,079
sightings were those were in march so

1357
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,440
i'm talking

1358
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:21,839
late january in the twi i don't know

1359
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,640
maybe the 27th ish around there a week

1360
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,319
before the winter x games because that's

1361
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:27,839
where i was headed

1362
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,119
we see in taos new mexico a very bright

1363
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:33,680
light come around taos mountain uh it

1364
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,520
was night time but it was dusk so that

1365
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:39,520
in the west there was still light in the

1366
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,280
sky so you could see the outlines of the

1367
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,960
mountains and you know clouds in the

1368
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:47,440
distance whatever but directly over me

1369
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,640
pitch black

1370
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,640
stars but you could see the outline of

1371
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:52,800
taos mountain and lower than the

1372
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,680
mountain so it had to be around 2 500

1373
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:57,520
feet up i mean it was not higher than

1374
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:59,599
the mountain it came around the mountain

1375
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:01,760
was this very bright light and my wife's

1376
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:03,280
in the car with me and i had a video

1377
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,119
camera with me and i'm like oh my god

1378
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:06,960
what is that thing what is that let's

1379
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:09,040
look at it so we keep driving towards

1380
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,400
our house which we're getting closer and

1381
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,640
closer in el prado new mexico and it's

1382
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,240
coming right towards us and there's a

1383
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,599
lot of cars on the street and other

1384
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:17,359
people no one seems to be noticing this

1385
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:18,880
thing it's just a bright

1386
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:21,520
light it's there's no shape and i'm like

1387
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:22,880
what is this thing that's coming right

1388
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,680
at us and so i pull off the road into my

1389
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,520
driveway i jump out

1390
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,760
i grab my video camera

1391
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:31,359
turn it on and

1392
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,640
battery's dead

1393
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:35,119
frickin dies i you know it's dead so i

1394
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:36,480
don't get anything on the camera and

1395
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:40,640
then i look up my wife's right there and

1396
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,680
flying above us is the biggest

1397
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:45,359
freaking thing i've ever seen in my life

1398
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,599
i mean it was so huge i mean it was at

1399
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,160
least like three aircraft you know like

1400
00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:55,119
carriers i mean it was giant it blocked

1401
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:58,240
out the stars as it went overhead

1402
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:01,760
i was mesmerized looking directly up

1403
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:04,160
into the bottom of this craft which was

1404
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:07,280
just like warping lights colorful kind

1405
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:09,839
of rainbow lights it looked like you

1406
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,839
know the heat shimmering coming off of a

1407
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,800
hot

1408
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,640
cement so the heat was shimmering so the

1409
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:16,000
lights were shimmering and i was just

1410
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:17,040
like

1411
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,119
the sky as it went completely over our

1412
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:23,760
head silent as the night and went right

1413
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,640
over our head and then kept going uh

1414
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:28,559
over towards taos pueblo and over the

1415
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,079
mountains so i'm like oh my god oh my

1416
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,000
god you saw that you saw that and then

1417
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,760
all of a sudden we hear

1418
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,680
and coming up behind it come in the same

1419
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,640
basic direction two more fighter jets

1420
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:40,640
and they're following it but this giant

1421
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:43,839
thing is not going very fast it's not

1422
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:46,240
trying to escape it's not accelerating

1423
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,559
away it's just staying on its same

1424
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:50,720
trajectory in its same path and these

1425
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:53,200
fighter jets go right over us loud

1426
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:54,559
and they're heading towards it but

1427
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:56,880
they're catching it so they peel off

1428
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:58,079
because they they didn't want to like

1429
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,520
overtake it it seemed they didn't want

1430
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:02,000
to fly over it or catch it so they kind

1431
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,720
of peeled off and then both the jets and

1432
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:06,240
the thing went over the mountain and we

1433
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:07,839
couldn't see them anymore

1434
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:10,559
and i was just shocked and dismayed and

1435
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:13,520
so excited that i had seen it with

1436
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,160
my wife i was more

1437
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:18,640
like oh my god see look i'm not crazy

1438
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:21,760
i'm not crazy with her then i was even

1439
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,480
like blown away by what i had seen now

1440
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,599
i pictured it as a triangle but i wasn't

1441
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,200
really looking at the

1442
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:31,680
details of the shape i was

1443
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:34,079
mesmerized by the lights underneath and

1444
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,319
just the size and the quiet it was so

1445
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,880
quiet as it went over but my wife said

1446
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,480
she was actually looking end to end

1447
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,000
trying to figure out how big it was and

1448
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,079
what the shape was she said it seemed

1449
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,040
like a giant boomerang but possibly

1450
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,880
triangle but

1451
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,880
a month and a half later when the you

1452
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,640
know phoenix lights went off i mean we

1453
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,200
both were like oh my god that's exactly

1454
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:57,359
what we saw so

1455
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,880
i don't know if it's a precursor to the

1456
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:00,799
phoenix lights i don't know if it was

1457
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,799
the same craft or what but it was giant

1458
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,680
it was quiet it was triangular or boomer

1459
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,000
shaped um

1460
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,000
you could have landed freaking airplanes

1461
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:14,559
on the top of this i mean it was so huge

1462
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:16,720
so um

1463
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:19,839
that is my the basics of my my two big

1464
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,559
stories that include fighter jets

1465
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,760
um

1466
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:25,440
you know only one of them had any kind

1467
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,680
of acceleration or what would lou would

1468
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:29,520
call the five observables my first one

1469
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,880
in 85 that's kicked it all off but uh

1470
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,559
these things are flying around out there

1471
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,440
our military's aware of them um we it

1472
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,520
you know to me there's not an issue of

1473
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,119
proof or belief

1474
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,280
um i've seen this stuff so you know i

1475
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:45,680
know it's real um i've spoken to many

1476
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,599
people since then uh you know i have

1477
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,440
spoken to researchers i've spoken to

1478
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:54,160
david fraber i've spoken to

1479
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:56,799
you know many other military pilots

1480
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,599
um this is way more common than people

1481
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:00,799
have ever known

1482
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,799
best kept secret on the planet

1483
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:05,040
and thank you ryan and your podcast

1484
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:08,079
listeners for uh listening and um

1485
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:10,240
you know i have lots of other

1486
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,520
interesting

1487
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:14,000
stuff but those are the two big ones uh

1488
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,599
that i thought i would share with your

1489
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,920
listeners so thank you ryan and thank

1490
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,359
you listeners

1491
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,280
keep the faith and quit fighting out

1492
00:56:26,830 --> 00:56:23,280
there on twitter let's keep our

1493
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,840
together and uh let's get this solved

1494
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:28,559
[Music]

1495
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,599
my name is casey my twitter is at

1496
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:32,960
villian

1497
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,000
in july of 2013

1498
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,400
right around 4th of july time frame i

1499
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:40,559
worked for the indianapolis museum of

1500
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,559
art as a campus police officer at around

1501
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,559
three o'clock in the morning i was

1502
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,119
dispatched along with my partner to go

1503
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,319
check out some residential areas

1504
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,119
known as the golden hill estates it was

1505
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:56,880
a site we had to check out pretty much

1506
00:57:02,710 --> 00:56:59,839
nightly to make sure there was no

1507
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:02,720
activity going on

1508
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:05,119
my partner and i split up to come around

1509
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:06,319
the park

1510
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:09,680
and meet back at the curve where

1511
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:12,880
kind of forks in the road uh when we got

1512
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:13,920
there

1513
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:17,200
at a house that was at a mansion

1514
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,109
there were two small craft probably five

1515
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:27,599
feet in diameter

1516
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:30,079
two to three feet tall

1517
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,670
kind of like an asian

1518
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,680
style

1519
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,359
partition

1520
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:41,280
uh in the sense that it looked like it

1521
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,309
they were hovering

1522
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:51,280
just motionless about two to three feet

1523
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,359
off the ground

1524
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:55,839
when we came up at which point

1525
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,640
then they started floating probably two

1526
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,119
to three seconds after we saw that they

1527
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,520
started floating up

1528
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:05,839
um

1529
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:08,559
from there once they got to about 10

1530
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:09,839
feet maybe

1531
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:12,000
the lights kicked on

1532
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,599
and basically the bottom half that

1533
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:15,599
looked like the paper partition with

1534
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:16,799
kind of

1535
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:19,839
it almost looked like burnt wood

1536
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:23,040
as the frame um

1537
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,640
that's when the lights kicked on and

1538
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,720
then they started dancing kind of back

1539
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:28,880
and forth with each other uh they were

1540
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:29,920
just

1541
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:31,200
i don't know how to describe it they

1542
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,599
were moving perfectly in sync with each

1543
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:35,520
other one would go poor one would go

1544
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:37,359
starboard and then they'd swing back

1545
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:40,079
around vice versa kind of dance in front

1546
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:48,150
then they started moving pretty rapidly

1547
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:50,400
we kind of took off

1548
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,359
after them out of the neighborhood uh

1549
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:55,760
then they kind of hit straight on

1550
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:58,319
michigan road a very major

1551
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,960
road in indianapolis

1552
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:02,960
um

1553
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,359
as i at which point we we lost them we

1554
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:07,440
didn't see them they they took off real

1555
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:11,040
fast um kind of parallel

1556
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:15,920
with the road not gaining any altitude

1557
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:17,599
um

1558
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:18,559
and then

1559
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,359
that probably three four seconds after

1560
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:23,440
that about

1561
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:26,799
maybe five to six miles down michigan

1562
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:29,760
road we saw two lights just shoot off

1563
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:30,880
into

1564
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:37,349
the whole ordeal lasted maybe two three

1565
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,480
minutes when i radioed back to dispatch

1566
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,240
they said we had been marked out for

1567
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:44,559
maybe 20 minutes

1568
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:48,079
um definitely didn't seem like that long

1569
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,200
uh my initial reaction was to shoot it

1570
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,359
uh then i was just like

1571
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,680
what am i gonna say i'm i'm shooting at

1572
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:57,760
a balloon a ufo

1573
01:00:02,309 --> 01:00:00,000
i i don't know what this is i'm shooting

1574
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,319
in a residential area at things in the

1575
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:04,240
sky like

1576
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:07,040
so that that quickly left um i just got

1577
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,799
the feeling like you would be a

1578
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:10,720
laughingstock like that just seems

1579
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:12,839
ridiculous

1580
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,559
um

1581
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:15,920
i also got the

1582
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:17,359
like in the day since i got the

1583
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:23,910
it would be on the news soon

1584
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:27,040
like everything would be revealed not to

1585
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,880
worry

1586
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,799
my partner even called me a couple weeks

1587
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:32,640
later and was like what do we do about

1588
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,559
it and i was just like i don't know so

1589
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,319
let's do nothing pretend it never

1590
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:39,760
happened

1591
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:41,920
and move on with life and that's what i

1592
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:44,720
did for several years

1593
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:47,680
i lasted on the police department about

1594
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,599
a month after that maybe two

1595
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:53,440
from there my life just completely

1596
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:56,400
changed i am not the same person anymore

1597
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,119
just a completely different person i

1598
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:00,880
couldn't even relate to the person i

1599
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,240
used to be

1600
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:04,720
yeah that's that's all my story i'm

1601
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,390
hi ryan and listeners of somewhere in

1602
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:14,880
the skies podcast my name is mike

1603
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,880
jamison and i live in ukiah california

1604
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:20,480
there are two

1605
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:22,880
incidents in recent years that i wanted

1606
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:26,640
to share the first one was

1607
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:29,599
during april of 2018

1608
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:32,319
i was sitting up quietly after midnight

1609
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:35,520
by a west facing window

1610
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:36,839
with the blinds

1611
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:40,960
up suddenly a bright white light blasts

1612
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,839
through the window not a diffused beam

1613
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,319
but thick and concentrated

1614
01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:49,440
there's no possible ground source

1615
01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:51,839
for this light with rising forest with a

1616
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:54,559
rising forested hill to my west only a

1617
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,200
gap in the tall trees

1618
01:02:02,309 --> 01:01:59,760
i get up and look out

1619
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,319
over a tree line behind a lonely house

1620
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:04,960
in the hill i see from a position to the

1621
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,000
left rear of the scene a large squarish

1622
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:11,119
backside of a large appearing craft

1623
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:13,839
silently hovering

1624
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,880
it is completely quiet and still

1625
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:18,000
a mumble

1626
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:19,599
this isn't normal

1627
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,160
and don't go outside as the craft had

1628
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,200
already shined a light into my place

1629
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:28,079
i definitely shut down and resumed

1630
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:31,760
sitting quietly in the chair

1631
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,319
and that incident i kind of kept quiet

1632
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,000
for a couple days shared it with a

1633
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:38,400
couple of friends asked them if i should

1634
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,119
share it with people and they said no

1635
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:43,119
but i decided to eventually share it

1636
01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:44,559
publicly

1637
01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:46,839
which i did on social

1638
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:50,480
media in june of 2020

1639
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:52,720
one night i was out for a late night

1640
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:55,920
walk to the river

1641
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,640
i noticed a darkish silver sphere of

1642
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:00,720
light just hovering

1643
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,240
over a notch in the ridge nearby about

1644
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:06,480
two miles away

1645
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:08,799
the apparent size is a dime

1646
01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:10,480
at arm's length

1647
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:12,160
the object

1648
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:15,599
begins to dart very rapidly

1649
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:16,640
uh

1650
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:21,440
arm's length

1651
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:23,839
the object begins to dart very rapidly

1652
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:25,839
over the area of this ridge and then

1653
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:27,039
comes

1654
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:30,240
to rest again just above the ridge then

1655
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:33,920
it slowly ascends at a 45 degree angle

1656
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:37,680
a couple hundred feet up and then stops

1657
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,880
after a minute an identical object just

1658
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:43,119
suddenly appears about a hundred feet to

1659
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,119
the right and a little above

1660
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:47,520
of the first object

1661
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:50,160
now i'm completely stunned

1662
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:53,599
both objects now elegant then

1663
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:56,880
elegantly descend in tandem and hover

1664
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:59,440
over the notch in the ridge

1665
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:01,280
i get excited

1666
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:03,680
raise both arms and think loudly come

1667
01:04:07,349 --> 01:04:05,520
here

1668
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:07,359
surprisingly they both flare up

1669
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,200
dramatically

1670
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,760
at first it looked like they were edging

1671
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:13,680
forward but no that's not what was

1672
01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:15,280
happening

1673
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:17,839
a little bit later the original sphere

1674
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:20,319
just instantly instantly

1675
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:21,760
disappears

1676
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,880
and i see a pencil dot size light

1677
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,119
manifest over a different ridge to the

1678
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:30,160
south a few miles further away

1679
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:33,599
then the second object does this

1680
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:36,000
very shortly after the first object in

1681
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:39,520
instantly manifest at the original

1682
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:41,359
spot on the uh

1683
01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:44,160
ridge and the second soon followed

1684
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,000
they do this back and forth several

1685
01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:48,880
times spanning a significant area

1686
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,400
evident with my side angled view

1687
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:54,960
and then they are gone back home a few

1688
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:57,520
minutes later i checked flight radar 24

1689
01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:59,839
and see nothing in the general region

1690
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:02,720
this is during a time when the uh nearby

1691
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:05,680
ukiah airport was fully closed for

1692
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,530
runway appears thank you for listening

1693
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:10,319
[Music]

1694
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:13,039
hello ryan my name is frank

1695
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:14,960
i'm an attorney from the philadelphia

1696
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:17,520
area and my personal encounter with a

1697
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:20,319
flying vehicle or whatever

1698
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:23,260
occurred around 1977.

1699
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:24,400
[Music]

1700
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,960
my rock band was playing in wildwood new

1701
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,160
jersey

1702
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:30,160
in november of that year

1703
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:36,390
and my bandmate and i drove back from

1704
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,839
wildwood new jersey to philadelphia

1705
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:42,000
after we got onto the atlantic city

1706
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:44,720
expressway for a few miles

1707
01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:47,920
we suddenly saw a large black triangular

1708
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:49,119
something

1709
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:51,440
floating across the highway

1710
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:55,920
it was about 75 yards ahead of us

1711
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:58,799
at that point my car engine ground to a

1712
01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:04,150
it was about 3 am and no other cars were

1713
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:05,920
on either side of the expressway that

1714
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:07,599
night

1715
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:09,680
so my buddy rich and i jumped out of my

1716
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:11,680
car and watched this thing literally

1717
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,480
float across the road

1718
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:16,720
it looked like it was about five miles

1719
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,400
an hour

1720
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:19,920
there was a light on each point of the

1721
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:24,549
and then we watched it disappear over

1722
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:26,480
the tree line at the far lanes of the

1723
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:28,570
expressway and was gone

1724
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:30,319
[Music]

1725
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:31,920
and we looked at each other pretty

1726
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:36,710
and i guess my in the back of my mind i

1727
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:40,400
thought has to be an experimental plane

1728
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,039
but when we got back into my car

1729
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:45,039
i turned the ignition on my car started

1730
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,960
right up

1731
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:48,640
so we looked at each other and started

1732
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,760
laughing like a disbelief

1733
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,280
so the next day

1734
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,440
or later that day i when i woke up i

1735
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:57,520
called the faa

1736
01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:00,720
and i finally got through to a lady who

1737
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,799
after i told her what happened to us she

1738
01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:04,480
said well we haven't had any other

1739
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:06,079
reports

1740
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,680
but if we do

1741
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:09,839
you know give me your number and i'll

1742
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:12,079
call you and let you know

1743
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,400
well that that never happened so

1744
01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:16,480
in my mind and i figured well it has to

1745
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:19,039
be an experimental plane

1746
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,079
um

1747
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:22,240
you know because there was a there's

1748
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:24,480
there's been an air base outside of

1749
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,240
atlantic city for years so i figured it

1750
01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:28,799
had to be experimental plane from the

1751
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,160
air base outside of atlantic city

1752
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:34,400
so for years

1753
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:35,839
i never mentioned what happened to

1754
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:37,119
anybody

1755
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:39,359
other than

1756
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:43,039
the guys in my later band because we

1757
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:45,520
actually i wrote a song about it maybe a

1758
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:49,200
year later and we performed it

1759
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,280
in wildwood actually in

1760
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,680
1978

1761
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:55,760
so for years i never mentioned anyone

1762
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:56,480
else

1763
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,079
you know what

1764
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,920
rich and i saw that night

1765
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:01,119
because i didn't want anybody to think

1766
01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:03,119
we were nuts or high

1767
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:05,119
we're drunk

1768
01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:06,559
that night so

1769
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,799
rich and i decided decided to start

1770
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,880
another music trio

1771
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:12,799
years later

1772
01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:15,920
had to be around 2020.

1773
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:18,319
we started a trio with a

1774
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,669
i'm a drummer and he was a

1775
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:26,239
keyboard player

1776
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:28,080
so then all the furore started about the

1777
01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:31,359
ufo sightings in the media

1778
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:33,679
the pentagon report came

1779
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,630
just it was just a lot of media

1780
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,319
hyping i i started to watch some

1781
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,480
documentaries i really got more

1782
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:44,480
fascinated by it and i couldn't believe

1783
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:46,159
some of the things i saw in the

1784
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:47,839
documentaries reminded me of the

1785
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,279
triangular

1786
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:51,440
spaceship we saw

1787
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:55,359
that night 1977 you know

1788
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,600
so for the first time in a practice in

1789
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:59,440
2020 i

1790
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:01,359
told rich and our female singer what i

1791
01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:03,199
had seen

1792
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:05,279
but was too embarrassed to tell anybody

1793
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:07,440
for all these years and suddenly rich

1794
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,640
says to me

1795
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,080
well who do you think was sitting next

1796
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:12,400
to you when you saw it

1797
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,920
and i blurted out

1798
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:16,000
you were there with me that night

1799
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:17,520
he says yeah i said

1800
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:19,839
i said thank god i thought i was alone

1801
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:22,400
that night so

1802
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:24,960
i asked him to recall what he saw and it

1803
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:27,759
was exactly what i remembered

1804
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:29,839
and in fact he added that the thing that

1805
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:31,440
freaked him out the most was that the

1806
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:34,560
large aircraft that we saw float by made

1807
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,719
no sound

1808
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:39,040
so that was pretty amazing you know to

1809
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:44,390
thinking about all of it

1810
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:45,679
recently

1811
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:48,799
i mean i always felt like there's it was

1812
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,759
obviously superior intelligence

1813
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,679
in this in the galaxy and it's not a

1814
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:55,520
surprise to me given the size of the

1815
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,560
universe

1816
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:58,320
that we could never really think that

1817
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,400
we're alone

1818
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,560
and so with all these documentaries i

1819
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,320
really felt like

1820
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,480
you know what we saw that night

1821
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:08,960
was probably a ufo

1822
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:12,000
that's how i feel about it and uh

1823
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:15,040
especially when i saw the navy pilots on

1824
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,440
60 minutes come out and show the videos

1825
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:19,040
that they saw while they were flying

1826
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,030
on a mission or whatever in practice in

1827
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:27,199
california

1828
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:28,880
so

1829
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:31,600
as a result of that we did my other band

1830
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,960
you know

1831
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:35,120
uh wrote a song about

1832
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:38,800
what we saw so we performed in 1978 and

1833
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:41,280
this past year we revised it we actually

1834
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:43,199
put it out on spotify and amazon you

1835
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:45,280
know it's called look to the sky philly

1836
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:46,560
mix

1837
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:49,760
and you know it's a song of hope

1838
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:50,880
that

1839
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:54,000
if these ufos were really a danger to us

1840
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:55,840
we know it by now

1841
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:57,360
and i don't think they can be from

1842
01:11:02,870 --> 01:10:58,880
russia or china or else they would have

1843
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:02,880
used their superior intelligence on us

1844
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:03,600
and

1845
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:07,679
i guess the song really meant to me

1846
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,040
is a song of hope because i think

1847
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:13,520
these aliens who are obviously superior

1848
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,560
to us

1849
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,239
get upset about

1850
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:17,920
all the wars that are happening and all

1851
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:19,440
the things that are happening in the

1852
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,480
world

1853
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:22,960
they may finally appear and tell us to

1854
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:25,520
cool all these wars and maybe cool mr

1855
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,800
putin down

1856
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:28,719
so that's about it

1857
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,830
somewhere in the skies is produced by

1858
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,920
third kind productions in association